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What generations do we breed?

W H A T  G E N E R A T I O N S  D O  W E  B R E E D ?

Our goal for our puppies is to have the least shedding coats as possible, gorgeous coats, nice balanced and solid structures, and a good balance of poodle and golden retriever temperament. This can be done through any generation. There is A LOT of wrong information regarding the generation of a goldendoodle and the amount of shedding. Generation doesn't help when trying to choose the best puppy, as you can get your desired coat type and temperament in any generation. For example, some breeders will say that F1b goldendoodles are more allergy friendly than any other generation. However, 50% of F1b goldendoodles will have the same coat genetics as an F1 (first generation) goldendoodle. Since we coat test our parent dogs, it's easy for us to predict what types of coats we will have in a particular litter. We pair our parent dogs based on their specific coat genetics to ensure we're getting consistent, non-shedding, loose curly coats. With the right knowledge of genetics, it's actually VERY easy to breed out shedding in our lines. We also test our parent dogs' breed percentages, so we can always have a good balance of both golden and poodle. We look at our parents' structures and pair them correctly to produce nice builds in our lines.

Before we learned about coat testing, we produced F1b litters because we believed they were the most hypoallergenic according to other breeders' advice at the time. We still produced F1b puppies with weak furnishing genes that affected allergies because we were unaware that lots of poodles (specifically from red lines) carry weak furnishing genes. Now that we've studied the genetics behind the furnishing gene and what makes a gorgeous quality coat, we can breed ANY generation goldendoodle and produce the same look, same low/non-shedding coats, as long as we pair the parents well according to their coat tests. Our most common breedings are multigenerational goldendoodles, which are any generation past second generation. With coat testing, multigenerational goldendoodles will breed true. What does that mean? It means you can expect the puppies to look just like mom and dad. Here's a simple generation breakdown to help you understand:


Golden Retriever x Poodle = F1 Goldendoodle (first generation)

F1 Goldendoodle x F1 Goldendoodle = F2 Goldendoodle (second generation)

F1 Goldendoodle x Poodle = F1b Goldendoodle (second generation)

Any generation past second generation = Multigenerational Goldendoodle

Goldendoodle Sizes

W H A T  S I Z E S  D O  W E  B R E E D ?

We currently breed petite, mini, medium, and standard size goldendoodles. These sizes are determined by both weight and height. If a goldendoodle's weight is catergorized as medium, but his height is catergorized as standard, he'll be determined a standard size. Goldendoodles can be built like poodles (tall and slender), golden retrievers (short and solid), or anything in between. Two goldendoodles can weigh the exact same amount, but its their height that will ultimately determine their size (sometimes its a 4-5" difference!). We will always breed our goldendoodles down slowly, with no more than a 3-4" difference in height between parents. This is to protect the structure in our lines and reduce joint issues later on. Sometimes our puppies end up smaller or bigger than what we estimate based on the size of the parents, but we're able to tell at around 6 - 7 weeks old if they'll be bigger or smaller than we predict.


Petite Goldendoodle = under 14" at the withers from the ground, usually under 25lbs.

Mini Goldendoodle = 14 - 17" at the withers from the ground, usually 25 - 35lbs.


Medium Goldendoodle = 17 - 21" at the withers from the ground, usually 35 - 50lbs.


Standard Goldendoodle = over 21" at the withers from the ground, usually over 50lbs.

Health Testing

H E A L T H  T E S T I N G

"Health tested" doesn't just mean that a local veterinarian did a wellness check or that our dogs are up to date on their vaccines. The ethical code of breeding calls for breed specific GENETIC testing to be done. If we are to bring companion dogs into this world, it is our job to do so responsibly to ensure they live long and healthy lives. Read more about health screening per breed here. Our parent dogs are thoroughly examined by our veterinarian before breeding, but we also perform DNA tests on our parent dogs to make sure they are healthy and don't have any genetic diseases or conditions that could be passed down to their puppies. Even if a dog appears healthy and isn't affected by a disease, they could carry a gene for a genetic disease, and if bred to another dog that carries the same gene, the puppies will be affected. The diseases that commonly affect goldendoodles are Degenerative Myelopathy, Ichthyosis, Neonatal Encephalopathy with Seizures, Progressive Retinal Atrophy - Golden Retriever 1 & 2, Progressive Retinal Atrophy-Progressive Rod-Cone Degeneration, and Von Willebrand Disease.

If one parent is clear and does not carry the genes for these diseases, that parent can't pass on the gene and there will be no puppies affected, even if the other parent is a carrier or is affected. A puppy must inherit a mutated gene from BOTH parents in order to be affected by the disease. Some of these diseases don't affect the dog until they are older, and can be very serious and life altering.

We also screen our parent dogs' hips, elbows, patellas, eyes, and heart. Hip and elbow dysplasia is common in both golden retrievers and standard poodles, and this can be genetic or occur anytime due to environmental factors. However, we still do our part in making sure the genetic factor of dysplasia is taken out of the equation. Usually, genetically caused hip dysplasia will be seen on x-ray after 4 months old. Without an x-ray, it's almost impossible to diagnose because a dog could go years before showing signs of hip dysplasia and hide their pain from puppyhood very well. The x-ray to the right shows our Godfrey's hips at a year old. If he had hip dysplasia, the joints would be coming out of his sockets. Instead, his joints fit nice and tight in his sockets. We have our veterinarian x-ray each of our parent dogs before they're bred so we can see if they have hip dysplasia or not. We also x-ray their elbows for dysplasia, and our veterinarian will examine our smaller sized parents for luxating patellas (knees). A veterinarian ophthalmologist examines our parent dogs' eyes for juvenile cataracts and other genetic eye diseases, and a cardiologists examines their hearts for genetic heart conditions.


W H Y  D O  W E  H E A L T H  T E S T  O U R  D O G S ?

We want goldendoodles to be the "low risk" breed when people are looking for a healthy family companion. Due to hybrid vigor and low Co-efficiency of Inbreeding (COI's), the chance of cancer is already reduced, but there are still lots of genetic diseases that can be passed down directly from the parents. The number of dogs brought into animal shelters due to these genetic diseases is high. For example: A new puppy owner is excited to bring home their new adorable puppy. The puppy is healthy when brought home and the breeder has the normal health warranty for 2 years. He passes his vet exams with flying colors. The new puppy owner thought he was purchasing a puppy from a "reputable" breeder because the puppies were raised well in the breeder's home instead of kennels outside, or the breeder did enrichment protocols with the puppies. However, the breeder doesn't do any health testing at all, they just get wellness checks done on their parent dogs by their local veterinarian. As the dog grows past the age of 2 when the symptoms usually begin, the owners notice that he can no longer see, the dog begins to have trouble walking and moving due to weakness in their limbs, or his skin turns scaly. The dog is no longer under the age of 2, so the breeder warranty is null and void. If the dog owner cannot afford treatment for this genetic disease and does not have the time and energy to manage the symptoms of these diseases, they will sometimes have no choice but to bring their dog to the shelter because there is very little chance of re-homing the dog to someone who is willing to pay for lifelong treatment for the poor dog. Most breeder's wont take these dogs back, because how can they rehome a dog with a disease that they could have easily prevented by due diligence? We like to think most people would accept their dog no matter what and treat their dog for these diseases, but sadly that is not the world we live in, as proven by the amount of diseased and disabled dogs in shelters. Adopting a wonderful pet, falling in love with it, then loosing that beloved pet to a disease or condition that could have easily been prevented by the breeder is heart breaking. A health warranty will refund your money, but that will not take away the pain and heart break. Please do your research and ask your breeder what health testing they've done. If a breeder is not able to ensure genetically healthy puppies, they should not be breeding their dogs.


A L L  A B O U T  T H E  F U R N I S H I N G  G E N E

Furnishings are the genes passed down from the poodle that are responsible for shedding, as well as the teddy bear appearance (beard and eyebrows). Poodles usually have their faces shaved, but the fur on their muzzle does grow evenly like the rest of their body if left to grow. The furnishing gene is the gene that is responsible for their fluffiness (NOT curl, that is a separate gene), and low shedding.

If a goldendoodle has no furnishing gene, they will have a flat coat, often referred to as an Improper Coat, just like a golden retriever. This will result in an "open face" with no beard or eyebrows.

A furnishing gene could be weak or strong, but it is dominant, meaning a puppy just needs one furnishing gene in order to exhibit a beard and eyebrows. Puppies with only one furnishing gene that appears to be a weak furnishing gene will have a thinner, flatter, and wirey coat that will shed. If we know that some of our puppies inherit only one furnishing gene and its a weak one, we are able to determine this early on. The furnishing gene, both weak and strong, are testable, and we have been able to selectively breed in only strong furnishing genes into our lines. None of our puppies will have weak or flat coats, and they will all be non to low shedding.

A L L  A B O U T  T H E  C U R L  G E N E

A lot of people think that "Straight Coat" means a Flat Coat. That's not true at all, and causes a lot of confusion. A Flat Coat is the result of no furnishing gene, just like a golden retriever with no fluff, beard, or eyebrows. A Straight Coat actually means that a goldendoodle has two non-curl genes, which means they'll have very little curl to their coat. A Straight Coat on a dog with furnishings (fluff/beard/eyebrows) is actually very beautiful and fluffy, and we produce these non-shedding straight coats in our multigenerational goldendoodle litters. Most of our fully furnished straight coats look exactly like wavy coats. A Flat Coated goldendoodle could also have a wavy or curly coat, so the distinction is important due to so much confusion out there. However, the flat coated goldendoodle with a wavy or curly coat will have no fluff on their faces.

There are two genotypes for curl, just like furnishings, since the puppies will inherit one genotype from each parent. The  non-curl gene comes from the golden retriever, and the curl gene comes from the poodle. Golden Retrievers have two non-curl genes resulting in a Straight Coat (no curl), and poodles have two curl genes, resulting in a tight Curly Coat. When bred together, each parent will pass down one of their genotypes randomly. ALL F1 goldendoodles (golden retriever x poodle) have one curl gene and one non-curl gene, which results in a Wavy Coat, because they can only inherit a non-curl gene form the golden retriever parent and a curl gene from the poodle parent. We test the Cu Locus in our dog's DNA to determine which outcome we will get in our puppies.

A L L  A B O U T  S H E D D I N G

Shedding has nothing to do with the curl gene, and everything to do with the furnishing gene. Most people think that a curly coat will be less likely to shed, but that's far from true. People associate curly with non-shedding because poodles don't shed, but poodles don't shed because they have Furnishing genes and usually at least one low shed gene. For example, yorkies, schnauzers, and maltese all have straight coats and furnishings, and are allergy friendly. CLICK HERE for an article from VetGen that explains the relationship between shedding and the Furnishing gene. For those with severe allergies, we suggest getting a puppy with strong furnishings (F/F) and one or two low shedding genes just to be on the safe side.

T H E  I M P O R T A N C E  O F  G O O D  S T R U C T U R E

Have you ever seen an awkward looking goldendoodle that walks around like it has a stick up its rear? We see this all the time, and it only increases that desire to want to produce well balanced dogs.

As breeders, it's our job to never stop trying to improve our lines. Structure is a huge part of this, as we should be producing dogs with both sound minds and sound bodies. Good conformation allows a dog to move correctly and remain active for it's whole life without going lame or developing arthritis. If there is a mild structural fault in one of our parent dogs, we make sure that we pair them to a mate that does not have that specific fault. If we do, the puppies could have a more exaggerated form of this fault. We want straight, even toplines, great front and rear angulation, feet that point forward, and nice long necks. These are things we look for when choosing a puppy for our breeding program, as well as temperament, health, and coat quality. We stack our potential keepers between 7 and 8 weeks old and choose the one with the best conformation. Not only is this the best practice for healthy joints, but it makes our dogs look well bred and gorgeous! Our goal will always be to produce well balanced goldendoodles, and our lines will only get better over time.

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A L L  A B O U T  P U P P Y  C U L T U R E

In our program, we use Puppy Culture training protocols. This begins when the puppies are 3 days old, and ends when they go home with you. The Puppy Culture way is a GREAT way to ensure that your puppy will have the greatest chance of being healthy, happy, smart, and socialized.

When the puppies are 3 days old until they are 16 days old, we do early neurological stimulation exercises with each puppy. Dogs who undergo these exercises at this age are proven to have greater tolerance to stress, greater residence to disease, stronger heart rate, stronger heartbeat, and a faster adrenal system. After that, beginning at 3 weeks old, we get them used to their litter box.  They learn early on that there is a specific place to go, and that they can't just go anywhere. When they go home, they are completely litter boxed trained and it is very easy to house train them. You can simply put the litter box outside or sprinkle it in the grass so your puppy will know what to do when he/she goes home. They also begin playing with a new toy each day and socializing with as many people as possible at 3 weeks old. At 4 weeks old, we introduce problem solving activities and different challenges for your puppy to work through. To quote Jane Killion, the creator of Puppy Culture, "animals who are given learning and problem solving activities in addition to toys and social interaction grow up to be more stable, less easily stressed, less easily frightened, with better learning and memory than animals who are given the same toys and socialization with no learning and problem solving". We also work on manding (learn to sit instead of jump for attention), grooming, food aggression, and getting the puppies used to different heights and surfaces, as well as textures. Puppy Culture focuses on making each new thing a positive experience for your puppy early on, so that they are used to the necessary things like baths, grooming, and crate training by the time they go home with you. Because we focus on using positive reinforcement from such a young age, your puppy will love to please. We try our best to prepare our puppies for their new homes using Puppy Culture, but the rest depends on you. Studies show that a dog is the most receptive to learning in the first 12 weeks. What they learn during the first 12 weeks of life will stay with them forever. Our puppies go home at 8 weeks old, so we encourage each of our puppy owners to purchase the Puppy Culture video, "The Powerful First 12 Weeks" and use weeks 8 through 12 to the best of their ability. Watching these videos, you'll learn how your puppy learns and what the best ways to train them are. Jane Killion's book, "When Pigs Fly" is another resource we highly recommend. You'll see things through your dog's eyes and these training techniques begin to make complete sense. This will also prepare you and help you tackle obstacles that could arise. We've found that our puppies transition a lot better when our puppy owner's prepare with Puppy Culture before bringing their puppy home. Click the icon below to order Jane Killion's videos (on demand or DVD) or books: 

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